Thursday, March 14, 2013

D-3 BP68

This is the first of three bracket projections this week. Remember, there will be another one after Friday night's games.

Anyway, since Sunday there hasn't been a whole lot of action around the bubble. After all, some of the big conference tournaments haven't gotten started yet, and most of the ones that have (Big East, Pac-12, etc) have mostly played early round games, which mostly served to eliminate some of the at-large chaff (more on that in a moment). One big piece of news is Gonzaga winning the WCC tournament, which will probably earn them a 1 seed. It also means trouble for St. Mary's, though for the time being I still have them in the Field of 68.

Most of the action has been in the smaller conferences. And with a few wild results, I have made five changes to the Field of 68: Western Kentucky in for Middle Tennessee (Sun Belt), Iona for Niagara (MAAC), James Madison for Northeastern (Colonial), Liberty for Charleston Southern (Big South) and Morgan State for NC Central (MEAC).

Expect bubble action to pick up more over the next couple of days. We did eliminate three teams from at-large contention since Sunday, though: Air Force, Providence and St. John's. That leaves 17 teams not in my bracket that still have a chance at an at-large bid. That number will probably halve over the final week.

Remember, this is a projection of the final bracket on Selection Sunday, rather than of how I think teams would be seeded if the season ended now. There's a difference.

Here we go:

1. INDIANA (BIG TEN)
1. DUKE (ACC)
1. GONZAGA (WCC)
1. KANSAS (BIG 12)

2. LOUISVILLE (BIG EAST)
2. FLORIDA (SEC)
2. Michigan State
2. Miami (Fl)

3. Georgetown
3. Oklahoma State
3. Ohio State
3. Michigan

4. Pittsburgh
4. Kansas State
4. Marquette
4. New Mexico

5. Wisconsin
5. Syracuse
5. North Carolina
5. ARIZONA (PAC-12)

6. MEMPHIS (CONFERENCE USA)
6. UNLV (MOUNTAIN WEST)
6. Colorado State
6. VCU (ATLANTIC TEN)

7. Notre Dame
7. St. Louis
7. CREIGHTON (MVC)
7. Butler

8. Missouri
8. Iowa State
8. NC State
8. UCLA

9. San Diego State
9. Cincinnati
9. Wichita State
9. Villanova

10. Oklahoma
10. Oregon
10. Kentucky
10. Temple

11. Minnesota
11. California
11. Illinois
11. St. Mary's

12. BELMONT (OVC)
12. La Salle
12. Virginia
12. Colorado
12. Iowa
12. AKRON (MAC)

13. BUCKNELL (PATRIOT)
13. DENVER (WAC)
13. VALPARAISO (HORIZON)
14. STEPHEN F AUSTIN (SOUTHLAND)

14. SOUTH DAKOTA STATE (SUMMIT)
14. HARVARD (IVY)
14. DAVIDSON (SOCON)
14. WEBER STATE (BIG SKY)

15. STONY BROOK (AMERICA EAST)
15. NORTHEASTERN (COLONIAL)
15. IONA (MAAC)
15. FLORIDA GULF COAST (ATLANTIC SUN)

16. WESTERN KENTUCKY (SUN BELT)
16. LONG BEACH STATE (BIG WEST)
16. LIBERTY (BIG SOUTH)
16. LIU (NEC)
16. MORGAN STATE (MEAC)
16. SOUTHERN (SWAC)

Teams seriously considered that just missed the cut:
Baylor, Boise State, Ole Miss, Alabama, Tennessee

Decent resumes, but not good enough:
Southern Miss, Arizona State

Long shots, but still in the at-large discussion:
Maryland, UMass, Arkansas, Louisiana Tech

Still alive, but pretty much need a miracle:
Florida State, Charlotte, Xavier, Stanford, LSU, Middle Tennessee

4 comments:

Mike said...

If Duke loses in finals to Miami and all other of your projections pan out. Do they drop out of 1 seed? does Louisville bump up to 1 seed or does Miami jump them?

Christopher Denault said...

You should probably put New Mexico in as no worse than a #3 seed, and here's why:

Since 1994, the team that ended up with the #2 overall RPI has gotten a #1 seed 17 times and a #2 seed twice.

And that's it... nothing other than #1 and #2 seeds for the #2 RPI team since 1994.

As the Lobos are probably going to finish up with the #2 RPI, they're not gonna fall as far down as a #4 seed. Toss in their #3 SOS and winning the #1 RPI league by a full two games, and they should already be on the #2 line.

Jeff said...

Mike, it's possible that Duke could lose a competitive ACC title game to Miami and still end up with a 1 seed, but it's unlikely. They'd need a lot of help from other conferences. They'd certainly drop behind a Kansas or Louisville team that won their conference tournament, as well as Indiana and Gonzaga.

And Chris, every New Mexico fan argument like this requires the Selection Committee to be unaware of how manipulated New Mexico's RPI is. And history shows that the Selection Committee tends not to be that dumb. 2005-06 Missouri State can attest to that fact. So can 2011-12 Colorado State.

Using arguments comparing a Duke team that was #2 in RPI and #2 in Sagarin ELO to a New Mexico team that is #2 in RPI and #20-something in Sagarin ELO is simply not a fair comparison. Besides, if New Mexico lost they wouldn't be #2 in RPI anyway. They'd drop to 4-7, depending on who they lost to.

Christopher Denault said...

Let me toss a different stat at you then... since 1994, the top 4 teams in the RPI have been either a #1 seed or a #2 seed an astounding 74 out of 76 times.

So even if New Mexico drops to #3 or #4 in the RPI, they'd still deserve a #2 seed at the very least, if the past is any guide.

It's just dumbfounding how people continue to declare that the MWC somehow rigged the RPI numbers in their favor this year. Nobody ever complains about it when there's a BCS league at the top, ever, but as soon as a non-BCS team or league has great RPI numbers, suddenly it's become some sort of manipulation or rigging.

The REAL reason that Missouri State was last out in 2006 despite a #21 RPI was that the committee couldn't get over putting in a fifth MVC team that year, plain and simple. It wasn't about whether Missouri State deserved it... it was about not letting the MVC get more bids than the ACC that year. Sad that it came to that, but if you looked at Missouri State's record that year (not a single loss to a team outside the RPI top 50), you'd realize the unfairness of that decision.