Sunday, December 01, 2013

W-15 BP68

Coming into the season, the Big East looked like the most muddled of the major conferences. There just wasn't a clear best team. Marquette was getting all of the media hype, but anybody who followed their advanced metrics last year knew that they were very overrated. Georgetown was my pick, but they certainly have their flaws. Creighton is a contender. Maybe Villanova.

But the Big East is not the only league that is confusing. The ACC is suddenly a 4-5 team race where no team is the clear favorite. Duke has not been the best team so far, though I've still got them as champion and a 1 seed simply because I love their ceiling as a team. They should get better throughout the season, and I think they'll look a lot better in March than they do now. But like I said, it's still up for grabs.

And there are other leagues as well that are very difficult to figure, from the Mountain West to Conference USA. And so once again, there's a significant amount of movement amongst the teams seeded in the 9-12 range in my bracket. Once again, the 1-3 seeds basically didn't change at all.

There were two changes to the composition of the Field of 68 this week. Clemson and San Diego State moved in, while Purdue and Texas dropped out.

Please remember that the following is a projection of Selection Sunday and not a list of where teams would be seeded if the season ended now. There is a difference.


1. MICHIGAN STATE (BIG TEN)
1. KENTUCKY (SEC)
1. DUKE (ACC)
1. KANSAS (BIG 12)

2. ARIZONA (PAC-12)
2. Ohio State
2. LOUISVILLE (AAC)
2. Florida

3. Oklahoma State
3. Wisconsin
3. GONZAGA (WCC)
3. Iowa

4. GEORGETOWN (BIG EAST)
4. UConn
4. VCU (ATLANTIC TEN)
4. Pittsburgh

5. NEW MEXICO (MWC)
5. Creighton
5. St. Louis
5. Villanova

6. Michigan
6. Virginia
6. WICHITA STATE (MVC)
6. North Carolina

7. Syracuse
7. Indiana
7. UCLA
7. Marquette

8. Baylor
8. Iowa State
8. Memphis
8. Boise State

9. Notre Dame
9. UMass
9. Cincinnati
9. Colorado

10. Oregon
10. Florida State
10. Tennessee
10. Stanford

11. BYU
11. Dayton
11. HARVARD (IVY)
11. Minnesota

12. Clemson
12. Maryland
12. San Diego State
12. Butler
12. NORTH DAKOTA STATE (SUMMIT)
12. DREXEL (COLONIAL)

13. LOUISIANA TECH (CONFERENCE USA)
13. MANHATTAN (MAAC)
13. WEBER STATE (BIG SKY)
13. NEW MEXICO STATE (WAC)

14. BELMONT (OVC)
14. WISCONSIN-GREEN BAY (HORIZON)
14. TOLEDO (MAC)
14. GEORGIA STATE (SUN BELT)

15. MERCER (ATLANTIC SUN)
15. UC IRVINE (BIG WEST)
15. BOSTON UNIVERSITY (PATRIOT)
15. DAVIDSON (SOCON)

16. VERMONT (AMERICA EAST)
16. NORTHWESTERN STATE (SOUTHLAND)
16. NC CENTRAL (MEAC)
16. HIGH POINT (BIG SOUTH)
16. BRYANT (NEC)
16. SOUTHERN (SWAC)

Teams seriously considered that just missed the cut:
SMU, Boston College, Providence, Illinois, Purdue, Oklahoma, Texas, Indiana State, Utah State, Arizona State, California, Alabama, LSU, Missouri, Ole Miss, St. Mary's

Other teams with a decent shot, but that need to improve their resume:
George Washington, Richmond, St. Joseph's, St. John's, Xavier, Kansas State, West Virginia, Southern Miss, UTEP, Colorado State, UNLV, Washington State, Arkansas, Vanderbilt

Other teams I'm keeping my eye on, but that need to dramatically improve their resume:
Central Florida, Houston, South Florida, Temple, Georgia Tech, Miami (Fl), NC State, Wake Forest, George Mason, La Salle, DePaul, Seton Hall, Nebraska, Northwestern, Penn State, Delaware, Towson, Charlotte, Middle Tennessee, UAB, Wright State, Iona, Ohio, Missouri State, Northern Iowa, Fresno State, Oregon State, Utah, Washington, South Carolina, Texas A&M

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

The ACC may be hard to predict, but looking into my crystal ball I think you will eventually have to revise some of its members upward. Which ones, I have no idea, but I do think that:

Pittsburgh has a good chance of entering conference play undefeated.

Syracuse has a chance of entering conference play undefeated, but will probably have one loss.

Virginia will probably enter conference play with two losses.

Duke will probably enter conference play with two losses.

North Carolina will enter conference play with two or three losses.

How many losses in Pitt's extremely soft conference schedule (they play Duke, UNC, and Virginia once each) should we realistically expect? I see them losing at most 6 games pre-ACC tournament. At this point Pitt looks like a lock for at least a three seed, especially since the computers already love them.

Realistically, Syracuse should be able to get to at least 11-7 in conference. They have home-and-homes vs Duke and Pitt, and have UNC at home. I see them entering the ACC tournament with about 7 losses. I think an 8 loss Syracuse team would be several lines higher than a seven seed, especially since the computers already like them a lot.

Virginia is a tougher call, but their schedule is so imbalanced that they should easily be able to get to at least 11-7 (12-6 more likely) if they're any good at all. They play Duke, Pitt, Syracuse, and UNC once each. I think they will be right around a 6 after the ACC tourney, but a 5 if they manage to beat Wisconsin (which I'm betting against at this point).

Duke will be no lower than a 4 seed by the end of the year, but if they do drop then you'll end up with a team like Pitt or Syracuse on the top 2 lines, because someone other than Duke would have won the ACC.

North Carolina's seeding will be greatly influenced by what they do vs Michigan State and Kentucky. If they can get a split in those games (I'd bet they do) then they will be in good position, since they only play Pitt, Syracuse, and Virginia once during conference play. If they can get to even 11-7 in conference (probably 12-6 with their schedule) with wins against Louisville and either MSU or UK, then they'll end the season with around nine losses, great computer numbers and a resume of at least a high five seed.

Obviously there are a lot of assumptions being made here, but my predictions certainly aren't best case scenario (for instance, Syracuse might beat both Indiana and Villanova, and I could see them 12-6 a lot easier than I could see them 10-8 in conference). Things will even out, but I see no situation in which the ACCs top five teams are seeded collectively as low as you have them. Duke might be too high. Virginia might be on point. But considering all factors, I believe at a minimum Pitt, UNC, and Syracuse are seeded at least a full line too low.







Jeff said...

I think you're underestimating how many losses ACC teams will have heading into conference play. The odds are that teams like Pitt and Syracuse will lose a game to somebody.

Also, I disagree that the top few teams have to end up with high seeds. That's true if 4-5 teams run away from the rest of the league, but what the conference looks like now is that it's very wide open, and that we're going to see a lot of teams with 10-8/11-7 type records.

So the ACC will get a lot of teams in (I think I currently have 8 in the field), but we're more likely to see a lot in the 6-10 seed range than in the 1-4 seed range.

Anonymous said...

I think Pitt will go undefeated nonconference (only remotely dangerous game is Cincinnati), Syracuse will lose 1, Virginia will lose 2, Duke will lose 2, and UNC will lose 2-3. I think that's realistic, not an underestimation in my opinion. You see more losses - only time will tell who's prediction is correct.
Also, never implied that the top few teams have to end up with a high seed. I do, however, predict that the ACC will have 4 teams with top 5 seeds when taking into account current performance/computer numbers and future schedules. I was pretty conservative in predicting most of these teams will finish around 11-7 in conference.
I just don't see UNC, Virginia, and Syracuse all finishing at 10-8. If one gets to 11-7 in conference, their RPI and resume will put them at least a 5 seed. Time will tell. I'll bookmark this prediction as a friendly wager :)

Anonymous said...

Your hatred for Syracuse is amazing. Every year you bury them and every year they prove you wrong. I realize you base it off end of the year predictions, but you need to lose your bias.

Jeff said...

Last season I had Syracuse as a 4 seed preseason... and they earned a 4 seed. The year before that I had Syracuse as a 1 seed preseason... and they earned a 1 seed.

Seems like I have Syracuse pegged pretty well.

You Are Nuts said...

There is no way Syracuse will be lower than a 6 seed come tournament time, and they'll likely be higher than that.

You justified giving Syracuse an 8seed (#31 overall) in your preseason projections based on their supposed lack of offense. Now Syracuse has the #6 overall adjusted offense in the Pomeroy rankings, yet you're still not giving them their due.

It's only a matter of time before you'll join the world of sane basketball fans and move Syracuse closer to their deserving seed.

You Are Nuts said...

There is no way Syracuse will be lower than a 6 seed come tournament time, and they'll likely be higher than that.

You justified giving Syracuse an 8seed (#31 overall) in your preseason projections based on their supposed lack of offense. Now Syracuse has the #6 overall adjusted offense in the Pomeroy rankings, yet you're still not giving them their due.

It's only a matter of time before you'll join the world of sane basketball fans and move Syracuse closer to their deserving seed.

Anonymous said...

I think it's fair to say Syracuse will have a decent offense this year, but most of it will rely on their guard play. Ennis and Cooney will probably be up and down all year, but lean a little more towards "up". I do think Syracuse has proven they have four legitimate scoring options though.

Syracuse will probably stumble once before conference play - either tonight or against Villanova. If they do, then 10-8 in conference and a failure to win the ACC Tournament will get them around a seven seed. That's historically been the case.

If Syracuse manages to either
A) go undefeated nonconference
B) reach 11-7 in conference
or
C) win the ACC Tournament

then I don't think there will be any question that they're at least a 6 seed. If they go 10-8 in conference but get a bunch of quality wins (which is possible since the ACC should have a handful of teams in the RPI 35-50 range) then I think they'll still be a 6 seed. At this point, Syracuse has answered many of the concerns surrounding them prior to the season. I gotta believe that they'll accomplish at least one of the three things above, and be higher than a 7 seed by season's end.